In episode 172, Judge Alice Hill from the Council on Foreign Relations returns to the podcast! Alice discusses the recent floods in Pakistan and how the aftermath could be a national security threat. We also discuss Puerto Rico and Hurricane Irma and the challenges of getting on-the-ground resilience funding on the island. Alice and I discuss how bureaucracies can have difficulty supporting adaptation planning and funding and why a National Adaptation Plan would help with adaptation coordination. Alice also shares the lack of basic climate understanding among corporate leaders and how that inhibits making resilience a priority in the private sector. We also dig into the recommendations of the recently released GAO report, Climate Change: Enhancing Federal Resilience. Always great to catch up with Alice Hill!